Beyond the Belt
Welcome to Beyond the Belt, a podcast that explores the intersection of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and everyday life. In each episode, we sit down with black belts who don’t have Jiujitsu as their primary source of income. They are practitioners (and sometimes also coaches) who balance their love for BJJ with successful careers, family life, and personal passions. In each conversation, we dive into how BJJ has helped their life, share stories that represent who they are as a person and show that there is more to them than just jiujitsu. We nerd out about the things important to them on and off the mats. Whether you’re a BJJ enthusiast, someone curious about the sport, or just looking for inspiration in balancing your passions with life’s demands, Beyond the Belt offers insights and stories that resonate on and off the mats.
Episodes

Monday Mar 31, 2025
Mike McLean, Black Belt, Artist, Poet, Teacher - Beyond the Belt #18
Monday Mar 31, 2025
Monday Mar 31, 2025
This is a conversation with Mike McLean, a black belt out of Torquay, Victoria, Australia. Mike is an artist who focuses mostly on painting on reclaimed materials. He has painted hundreds of thousands of Wagtails that have made it around the world. He's also an art teacher and a poet.Episode Links:* Personal Instagram: https://instagram.com/@mikemcleanartist * Will the Wagtail Instagram: https://instagram.com/@willythewagtail * World Wide Wag Tails: https://instagram.com/@worldwidewagtails * Mike's Poetry: https://instagram.com/@mikemcleanpoet * YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MikeMcleanArtist Contact:* Be a Guest: https://btb.fan/newguest Outline:00:00 Intro00:22 Journey to Black Belt03:28 Training for Longevity08:29 Reflections on Life and Jiu Jitsu14:25 Getting Into Jiujitsu16:53 Balancing BJJ, Family, and Relationships19:51 Family Road Trip24:52 Artistic Journey and Career36:11 Getting Into Art45:23 Artistic Materials and Economic Choices50:35 The Wagtail Phenomenon59:02 An Emotional Painting for Jamie01:02:40 Immersive Activities 01:04:55 Getting Into Poetry01:11:32 Living a Life of Happiness01:15:53 OutroPodcast Links:Podcast Website: https://www.beyondthebeltpod.com/ Spotify: https://btb.fan/spotify Apple Podcasts: https://btb.fan/apple RSS: https://btb.fan/rss Social:Instagram: https://instagram.com/@beyondthebeltpod Tiktok: https://tiktok.com/@beyondthebeltpod Youtube: https://youtube.com/@beyondthebeltpod Blue Sky: https://bsky.app/profile/beyondthebeltpod.bsky.social Facebook: https://btb.fan/fb

Sunday Mar 16, 2025
Sunday Mar 16, 2025
Stephan Kesting is a black belt out of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Stephan is a fireman, outdoorsman, podcaster, author, and BJJ instructor and OG jiujitsu content creator. He is currently making the rounds promoting his new book, "Perseverance, Life and Death in the Subarctic."
Episode Links:
* Book: Perseverance, Life and Death in the Subarctic: https://btb.fan/17-persevere
* Strenuous Life Podcast: https://youtube.com/channel/UCxFCWZJbnlRyhw3vmDx0Rlg
* Grapple Arts: https://www.grapplearts.com/
* Outdoors Site: https://essentialwilderness.com/
* Personal Site: https://www.stephankesting.com
* Instagram: https://instagram.com/stephan_kesting
* YouTube: https://youtube.com/@stephankesting
* Threads: https://threads.net/@stephan_kesting
* TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stephankesting
* Blue Sky: https://bsky.app/profile/stephankesting.bsky.social
* German Jiujitsu Commercial: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X6wpRVqD5VQ
* Book: Non-Stop Jiujitsu: https://btb.fan/17-nonstop
* High Percentage Leglocks: https://btb.fan/17-leglocks
Contact:
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Outline:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Journey to Black Belt
09:29 The Early Years of BJJ
13:01 Online Content Creation and Teaching
19:20 BJJ as You Age
23:07 Protect Ya Neck
27:15 Firefighter Combat Challenge
31:50 From Biologist to Firefighter
35:14 First Fire Rescue Operations
42:51 Team Dynamics in High-Stress Situations
45:00 Prank Culture in Firefighting
50:43 Toxicity in Martial Arts
55:07 Loneliness and Finding Solitude in Nature
01:00:43 The Mental Focus of Wilderness Survival
01:06:13 The Importance of Sleep and Recovery
01:08:54 Journaling and Reflection
01:11:22 Grit, Perseverance, and Risk
01:15:50 Toughness is Transferable
01:20:57 Why Canoe in Canada
01:24:55 Luck and Averages
01:27:45 Work-Life Balance
01:29:17 The Power of Momentum in Taking Action
01:33:11 Lack of Future Plans
01:36:06 Perseverance and Promotion
01:39:05 Outro
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Monday Mar 03, 2025
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Bunmi Ojewole is a black belt out of Cape Town, South Africa. Bunmi is a doctor and currently finishing up her training to become an orthopaedic surgeon. In her spare time, she also fights MMA and dances Kazumba and Bachata. She is one of first few female black belts in South Africa.
Episode Links:
* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@bunmiojewole
* Lions Den Jiujitsu: https://instagram.com/@lionsdensa
* Pride Fighting Academy: https://instagram.com/@pf_sa
* South African Gi Girls: https://instagram.com/@southafricangirlsingi
Contact:
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Outline:
00:00 Intro
00:23 Journey to Black Belt
02:47 Mentoring in Jiujitsu
06:21 Competitive Landscape
10:26 Opinions of Avatar, the Last Air Bender and Arcane
13:06 Bone Bender and Orthopaedics
16:46 Advice for Queer Women
22:00 Origin Story: Geography and Culture
28:28 Becoming a Orthopaedic Surgeon
32:03 Surgical Stories
37:08 Medicine in South Africa
41:44 Dancing: A Safer Hobby
47:02 Life Lessons: Giving Grace to Others
50:18 Looking to the Future
54:25 Outro
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Saturday Feb 15, 2025
Saturday Feb 15, 2025
Matt McPeake is a black belt out of Ontario, Canada. He is also an Engineer, director of Sales in the paper and packaging industry, and a Batman enthusiast.
Episode Links:
* Beltchecker: https://www.beltchecker.com/profile.php?id=61
* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@jitzrollz
* Facebook: https://facebook.com/matthew.mcpeake.1
* BJJ Fanatics Introduction to the Power Line: Modified Kesa Gatame: https://btb.fan/15-bjjkesa
* BJJ Fanatics Power Line: Backpack Attack: https://btb.fan/15-bjjback
* Book 1984 by George Orwell: https://btb.fan/15-book1
* Book A History of Canada in 10 Maps by Adam Shoalts: https://btb.fan/15-book2
* Book Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink: https://btb.fan/15-book3
* Book Batman and Ethics by Mark White: https://btb.fan/15-book4
* Comic Batman Contagion by Chuck Dixon: https://btb.fan/15-comic1
* Comic Batman Cataclysm by Chuck Dixon: https://btb.fan/15-comic2
* Comic Batman No Man's Land by Bob Gale: https://btb.fan/15-comic3
Contact:
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Outline:
00:00 Intro
00:26 Journey to Black Belt
07:37 Find Your Gym Culture
17:09 Guard Pulling and Rulesets
19:44 Have a Game Plan
22:26 Teaching Structure
27:14 Sticking to the Rules
30:13 The Reality of Competition
37:00 Reading and Lifelong Learning
44:56 Jiujitsu's Role In Life
48:40 Dealing with Injuries
54:16 Life Advice
58:15 Conversation Take 2
59:21 Journey into Engineering and Corporate Career
01:02:14 Understanding the Starch Industry
01:04:34 Making Cardboard Boxes
01:08:12 Sustainability and Innovations in Packaging
01:18:23 Greenwashing and Recycling
01:23:07 Corporate Life
01:25:58 The Path to Advancement
01:35:22 Batman: The Complexity of a Hero
01:41:25 Ethics and Morality: Batman's Dilemma
01:45:07 Different Batmans, Different Villains
01:50:29 Exploring Batman: Recommendations for New Readers
01:52:50 The Importance of Authenticity in Life and Business
01:55:41 Outro
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Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Will Stone is a black belt out of Swindon, United Kingdom. Will is a member of the UK parliament representing Swindon North, an Army veteran, former bouncer as well as the owner of 10th Planet Swindon.Episode Links:* Will Stone Instagram: https://instagram.com/@WillstoneMP * Will Stone Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/willstone1990/ * 10th Planet Swindon Website: https://www.10thplanetswindon.com/ * 10th Planet Swindon Instagram: https://instagram.com/@10thplanetjiujitsuswindon * Street Sports BJJ Santa Monica: https://instagram.com/@streetsportsbjj * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-stone-mp-b4910a265/ * X: https://x.com/WStone4SN Additional Notes:* Politics Joe Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtLrjltHVk * Critical Role D&D Podcast: https://critrole.com/podcast/ * Harry Parker Law: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9d55gzeqx8o * Beltchecker: https://www.beltchecker.com/ Contact:* Be a Guest: https://btb.fan/newguest Outline:00:00 Intro00:22 Black Belt Feeling03:21 Complete Jiujitsu07:58 Transitioning to 10th Planet14:06 Competing in Jiujitsu17:29 Teaching Jiujitsu20:14 BJJ Gyms as Communities26:17 Finding Passion in Public Service31:00 What does a Member of Parliament do35:15 MP Casework40:52 Learning to Embrace the Grind46:09 Dad is a Great Influence48:35 The Importance of Support Systems52:55 Learning Who You Are Through Martial Arts55:02 Stories from Bouncing59:49 Building Effective Bouncing Teams01:02:57 The Therapeutic Nature of Hobbies01:06:21 Getting Started with Dungeons & Dragons01:09:10 Advice for Overcoming Challenges01:11:05 God Complex in Coaches01:14:31 IBJJF and JiuJitsu Politics01:18:50 Belts as Validation01:21:39 Breaking from Martial Arts Tradition01:30:33 The Polaris Performance01:38:15 Toxic Masculinity and Positive Male Role Models01:44:11 Reaching Across the Aisle01:48:36 Getting Into Politics01:54:54 OutroPodcast Links:* Podcast Website: https://www.beyondthebeltpod.com/ * Spotify: https://btb.fan/spotify * Apple Podcasts: https://btb.fan/apple * RSS: https://btb.fan/rss Social:* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Tiktok: https://tiktok.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Youtube: https://youtube.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Facebook: https://btb.fan/fb

Monday Jan 27, 2025
Monday Jan 27, 2025
Stevie Antoniou is a black belt out of Stockholm, Sweden. Stevie is a world traveler, freelance photographer and videographer, documentarian, and wilderness guide. He has also been diagnosed with Crohn's Disease.Episode Links:* Beltchecker: https://www.beltchecker.com/profile.php?id=44* Personal Instagram: https://instagram.com/@stevieantoniou * Personal Website: https://www.stevieantoniou.com * Hundarutanhem Documentary: https://btb.fan/13-dogdoc * Hundarutanhem: https://hundarutanhem.se/ * Hundarutanhem Donations: https://btb.fan/13-dogdonate * BJJ Globetrotters Documentary: https://btb.fan/13-bjjdoc * BJJ Globetrotters: https://www.bjjglobetrotters.com/ * Book: How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie - https://btb.fan/13-book1 * Book: Hunter Gatherer's Guide for the 21st Century by Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein - https://btb.fan/13-book2 Additional Links:* Stevie's Current Job: https://youtube.com/@ErikGrankvist * Crohn's Disease: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crohn%27s_disease Contact:* Be a Guest: https://btb.fan/newguest Outline:00:00 Intro00:21 Journey to Black Belt04:54 Growing Up in Martial Arts07:33 Changing Size in Jiujitsu11:07 Getting Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease14:40 Health Challenges and Personal Growth23:49 Language Learning26:04 Lessons From Traveling33:54 Wilderness Guide37:28 Forest Bathing40:31 Journey into Photography: From Hobby to Profession44:17 The Emotional Side of Photography48:13 Stevie's Favorite Photo51:02 Dogs Without Homes Documentary54:58 BJJ Globetrotters Documentary58:57 Advice for Aspiring Creatives01:02:09 Documentary Stats and Behind the Scenes01:05:49 Gratitude and Doing Hard Things01:08:54 A New Chapter in Life01:11:22 OutroPodcast Links:* Podcast Website: https://www.beyondthebeltpod.com/ * Spotify: https://btb.fan/spotify * Apple Podcasts: https://btb.fan/apple * RSS: https://btb.fan/rss Social:* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Tiktok: https://tiktok.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Youtube: https://youtube.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Facebook: https://btb.fan/fb

Friday Jan 17, 2025
Friday Jan 17, 2025
Doug Kimball is a black belt out of Oklahoma, USA. Doug is a former Chief Marketing Officer, seasoned marketing executive, and the Operations Director for the Robson Moura BJJ Association.
Episode Links:
* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@dkimballil
* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougkimball/
* Robson Moura Association: https://robsonmoura.com/rmnu/robson-moura-jiu-jitsu-association/
* Robson Moura: https://robsonmoura.com/
* Rafael Lovato BJJ: https://okbjj.com/
Contact:
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Outline:
00:00 Intro
00:19 Journey to Black Belt
02:54 Experiencing Age and Jiu-Jitsu
06:27 The Evolution of Jiu-Jitsu
08:59 ACL Injury and Lockdown
10:24 Training Under Different Instructors
16:31 Training Outside His Home Gym
19:35 Starting BJJ Older
23:13 Teaching and a Foundation in Counseling
26:07 BJJ Associations
32:56 Marketing as a Career
36:50 The Importance of Mentorship
39:15 Product Marketing Insights
41:25 Key Performance Indicators in Marketing
44:58 Doug's Innovative Marketing Wins
49:10 The Art of Storytelling in Marketing
51:43 Reflections on C-Level Leadership
56:04 Advice for Personal and Professional Growth
58:00 Future Aspirations and Jiu Jitsu Journey
01:02:40 Changing Gyms as an Upper Belt
01:09:58 Outro
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Friday Jan 10, 2025
Friday Jan 10, 2025
Jamie Bunn is a black belt out of Melbourne, Australia. Jamie is an executive coach, has a master's degree in nutrition, and is a life-long Buddhist. Episode Links:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiebunn/ * Website: https://www.jamiebunn.coach * Jamie's 5 Foundational Forces: https://btb.fan/11-5forces * X: https://x.com/@jamiebunn* Dan Pink: https://www.danpink.com/ * Simon Sinek: https://simonsinek.com/ * Book: Llama Surya Das - Awakening the Buddha Within: https://btb.fan/11-book1 * Book: Llama Surya Das - Awakening to the Sacred: https://btb.fan/11-book2 * Book: Llama Surya Das - Awakening the Buddhist Heart: https://btb.fan/11-book3 * Book: Gordon Livingston - Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart: https://btb.fan/11-book4 * Mike McLean: https://instagram.com/@mikemcleanartist (Painting behind Jamie)Contact:* Be a Guest: https://btb.fan/newguest Outline:00:00 Intro00:18 Journey to Black Belt05:52 Jamie's First Competition11:36 The Tragedy of Losing His Daughter21:18 Jitjitsu is One of Many Interests24:08 Dealing with Grief27:36 The Significance of the Black Belt29:56 Getting Started in Buddhism33:42 Daily Buddhism Practice35:27 The Synergy of Buddhism and Martial Arts39:39 Jiujitsu Helps in a Real Fight43:02 Consent in Martial Arts44:25 Integrating Life Into Executive Coaching48:35 Jamie's Coaching Principals54:20 The Five Foundations57:24 Navigating Nutrition01:04:23 The Importance of Biodiversity in Diet01:06:44 Personal Protein Powder01:14:37 About Caffeine01:18:32 Five Keys to Success01:23:14 Embracing Change and Future Aspirations01:29:46 OutroPodcast Links:* Podcast Website: https://www.beyondthebeltpod.com/ * Spotify: https://btb.fan/spotify * Apple Podcasts: https://btb.fan/apple * RSS: https://btb.fan/rss Social:* Instagram: https://instagram.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Tiktok: https://tiktok.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Youtube: https://youtube.com/@beyondthebeltpod * Facebook: https://btb.fan/fb